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Nicole Sabouné on Music, Liberation and Kismet text Natalia Muntean photography Sandra Myhrbergfashion Rebecca Cohen / xo.studiodress Prada How does music and neuroscience coexist within the same person? “The passion to do both things comes from the same drive and the same kind of place,” says Nicole Sabouné, one of the most interesting voices on the Swedish music scene, adding that she will probably live for the rest of her life balancing these two paths. After having recently graduated with a master’s degree in neuroscience, the 32-year-old artist released her fourth album titled Kismet at the beginning of October. “I always get into this fragile state, when opening up and releasing new music, of course. But it is also a relief, because it’s not mine anymore. And that is liberating,“ she tells me days ahead of the release. Kismet has been in the works for more than a year and a half, working in the lab during the day and spending her evenings in the studio. “I had a couple of hours every evening to get things done. So it’s been both good and bad. I think you get very effective and you don’t go back and forth a hundred times until you don’t know what’s good anymore,” she continues. Influenced by artists such as PJ Harvey, Air or Joy Division, Sabouné dug into herself and her own experiences for Kismet, a record that explores love, fate, liberation and acceptance. “Music has always been my output, especially when I feel something strongly and cannot express it in a good way.”   Natalia Muntean: I can imagine you get very surprised reactions from people when you tell them about your two career choices, but when did you know you wanted to become an artist? Or would you define yourself as an artist?Nicole Sabouné: Yes, I would define myself as an artist. And it has been there since I was a kid. I don’t remember not thinking that I would like to pursue some kind of career in music. From the start, it was only about getting some kind of output because I was quiet. So I found music to be it for me, which was really important. I think that has been there with me as a tool to be a part of something bigger.   NM: When you were little do you remember listening to music and singing? Or were you writing? Were you composing?NS: I did everything. And my interest or passion comes from what happened to me when I listened to music when I was a kid. And I still have that – there’s nothing that I can compare with that feeling of really listening to music that you enjoy, and that you feel, “Oh, this is my space”. And then I have been singing since I was… well, always.    NM: Do you have any memory of a song? Like maybe, your first ever memory of a song that you were listening to? NS: Oh, I think there was a mix between like Spice Girls, Radiohead and Nirvana.  body and corsett Julia Weström NM: A pretty wide range for a five year old!NS: I think it’s my brother’s fault, to be honest (laughs). And then I went into Swedish punk, so I just came in contact with the punk scene. And then I started to move over to everything that came from the UK. And then it was just like spinning. I went into post punk and I’ve been there since. NM: You explored different genres…NS: I think I did. But I always kept in the darker space. When it comes to music, it has to have some kind of melancholic vibe in it for me to be interested. Otherwise, it passes through me. With some kind of music, I can tell that it might be good, but something has to happen; it has to grab something in me, and I think it’s the dark vibes that work for me. NM: I wanted to touch upon this, actually, because I saw your music being described as “between darkness and romance”. And I’m just curious, how do you resonate with this, you know, description, and why do you think it encapsulates the essence of your music?NS: Of course it has something to do with references, the music world I come from, and what I like. Producing my own music is about wanting songs to evoke that specific feeling. With my voice as the main instrument, I always start by considering how I want to sing the song, how it suits my voice, and how I want it to appear. But it’s a nice description, though, to be romantic and dark. NM: Why did you name the album Kismet and how was the process of working on it?NS: So kismet comes from the word fate or destiny, it has an Arabic origin and I’m half Lebanese, so I wanted a word that felt substantial, almost like a movie title because the album was inspired by Sofia Coppola. And then I saw this interview with Michael Stipe from REM, and he mentioned it was kismet that all of them in the band met. I had heard it before as qisma from Arabic, but didn’t realise you can say kismet in English. And then, when I started writing the songs, I felt like it suited really well into the concept of what I wanted to write about. Working with two of my best friends, Billy Cervin and Jon Bordon, with Billy and I co-writing a couple of songs and all three of us producing the album, has been the main experience of creating this album. It was a close collaboration, a dream team, everyone open-minded with good taste in music. We built this universe together, referencing songs I had in mind. I wrote some songs myself, picked up others from the past that I co-wrote with a friend and finished them, and the producing part of the album has been the most important, to be honest. Having the word kismet to be the title for this

High Life: An Interview with Kimchii text Natalia Muntean photography and art direction Adam Kaiserfashion Paloma Gonzalez Axeheimshirt and trousers Levi’sshoes Eytysnecklace All Bluesbracelet and ring KSV Jewellery “Music heals. I hope mine does too,” says Kimchii, the part that brings more clarity to Kim Söderlund, a Stockholm-based artist. Kimchii is “an outlet for everything Kim can’t express” and, as the artist puts it, they make “a good team.” Kimchii released his debut single When You Feel The Time Is Right in 2020, on the legendary French record label Kitsuné Music. Since then, he has been refining his skills as a producer and songwriter. Embracing collaboration and exploring new genres has expanded his creative spectrum in all directions, and challenged what good music means to him. But believing in his ability to make a living out of his art made “the biggest difference” in how his music has evolved. In early 2023, Kimchii released Energetic Fields, an intriguing blend of organic instruments, electronic accents and feelings galore. The song was followed by Own the Night, a collaboration with Marseille-based artist Anoraak. Despite never meeting or speaking, their musical styles share a common language, reinforced by their passion for disco and electro-pop music. The two artists brought the idea of “owning the night” to life, and the single put Kimchii on BE Records’ radar.  NM: What inspired the single’s sound?Kimchii: When writing my songs, I often get a clear vision that plays out in my head and translates into lyrics and melody. With Own The Night, I wanted to capture the feeling of standing at the edge of the world in the night, dancing with strangers, being confident and in control NM: What story is Energetic Fields telling?Kimchii: Energetic Fields was inspired bynightlife, having too much of a good time, and how easy it is to lose yourself in it. The video embodies the dark side of partying, three creatures dancing their way deeper into the night. I won’t say more. You’ll have to see it for yourself! NM: How has working with BE Records been?Kimchii: Bon Entendeur is an amazing band from France, and I’ve loved their music for a while. They heard Own the Night and wanted to feature it on their new compilation. It’s easier working with labels run by musicians, as there’s a deeper understanding of how things work, and it’s an honour to release music on their label. NM: Who is on your collaboration wishlist?Kimchii: I’m very inspired by the Australian band Pnau by the craft of their productions, and I am confident we would create something magical together. Another Australian band I admire is Confidence Man. Amtrac is a producer I’d love to collaborate with. shirt Rue De Tokyoblazer and trousers Levi’sshoes Dr Martensjewelry KSV Jewellery NM: Do personal experiences play a significant role in your music?Kimchii: We all have different parts of ourselves – I get inspired by these and try to exaggerate them conceptually. We’ve all stayed out too long, not wanting the party to end, like in Energetic Fields. And as in Own the Night, we have all felt insecure on the dance floor. NM: Can you give us a sneak peek of your upcoming projects for 2023?Kimchii: I have some singles and collaborations coming up, including with two artists I love: Tensnake and Satin Jackets. I’m also performing live at the Porsche SCOPES festival in Stockholm, at the end of May. And there’s more to come! NM: How do you hope to develop your sound in the future?Kimchii: You can expect more alternative dance-driven & up-tempo sounds, while keeping a dream-like texture, influenced by 70s disco and 80s post-disco music. I don’t like to restrain myself. The sky’s the limit! shirt Levi’strousers Samsøe Samsøesunglasses Dolce & Gabbana photography and art direction Adam Kaisertext Natalia Munteanfashion Paloma Gonzalez Axeheimgrooming Alicia Hurst suit Rue De Tokyoshirt Samsøe Samsøeshoes Eytyssunglasses Dolce & Gabbanajewellery KSV Jewellery

An Interview with Nils Albin text Fashion Tales photography Sandra Myhrberg total look Polo Ralph Laurensunglasses Retrosuperfuture X Brikoshoes Veja Musician Nils Albin has certainly come along way since rapping with his friends in Västerås. The rapper-turned-indie/rock artist released his first solo album Pluto on June 2. The album is full of a mix of ballads, acoustic indie/rock tracks. and songs that are seemingly inspired by his earlier hip-hop days.    While Albin’s music style is everychanging, so is his fashion. Odalisque sat down with Albin, along with Caliroots, to discuss the musician’s evolving style, inspiration, and finding his own niche in the music world.     Nils. Albin. MC Hans – “kärt barn har många namn” as we say in Sweden (direct translation – a dear child has many names). Tell us more!When I started rapping, we would perform in Västerås, and they needed a name for the poster. So, I chose MC Hans because I thought it sounded funny, and the thought was to change it after the show. But then, I started liking it more and more, so it stuck. When it was time for me to go solo, I thought it was suuuuuuper hard to come up with a new name. At first I was considering calling it ”likblek” because it sounded cool and punky, haha. But after a while, I decided to go with Nils Albin, my real name, because the music was closer to me than anything I’d done before, basically.   You’ve started doing music with friends in the Swedish rapgroup Fridlyst at a young age. Take us through the journey!I met Phil and Shanti through mutual friends when I started high school. I had secretly started writing rap lyrics and wanted to make music but didn’t have a context, and I was a bit too afraid to start for real. But when I met them, they immensely helped and encouraged me. Their friends were also involved in many creative things, like one who made films and directed our music videos, painted and designed our album covers, and then a bunch of skateboarders. So, we were like a big gang in Västerås, just hanging out and thinking we were the coolest in the world. After high school, we all moved together to Malmö. Time spent in Västerås and Malmö is a time I hold very close to my heart.   How would you describe your music today? You started with rap and are leaning more towards indie now.      As indie rock/pop. The lyrics are very personal and the songs were created after a breakup from a long-term relationship. So, it reflects a time post-breakup, when I was going out clubbing a lot and just living it up. I felt very sad but at the same time free. total look Carhartt Wipshoes Timberlandsunglasses Retrosuperfuture From Västerås, to Malmö and then Stockholm – do you have a favorite city?I would say that I have beautiful memories of all the cities. Childhood in Västerås was nice and good, where I met my first real friends, you know. Malmö was nice too because that’s where I felt that I developed as a person and a musician. But I would probably say that Stockholm is my favorite city so far! I think a lot of it has to do with it being the latest. But I think my personality fits Stockholm the best; I’m a big city cat, haha.  What is the go-to outfit for a gig?I love to throw non a tracksuit and some cool sunglasses. I want to feel like a rock star from Manchester in the ’90s. But I’m not afraid to wear a shirt and tie either. But usually, my go-to is a tracksuit for sure. Do you think your clothing style in any way reflects on your music?Yes! My music is a bit mixed with soft ballads and then some indie rock jams. So, as I mentioned before, I usually alternate between tracksuits and dressing up with a shirt and tie. So, it’s a mix up just as my music. Favorite brands?Adidas, Stuzzi, and like Umbro. Preferably vintage for all of them. Also, I think CHPO makes really nice sunglasses! jacket Kenzoshirt Markettrousers Carhartt Wipshoes Clarks Originalhat Sci-Fi Fantasysunglasses Retrosuperfuture X Marini shirt and shorts Polo Ralph Laurensunglasses Retrosuperfuture X Briko shirt Timberlandtrousers Carhartt

An Interview with CK text Oskar Borin CK is a Swedish rapper and entrepreneur. Emerging from the Swedish hip hop scene in 2020, CK has been generating buzz through his numerous projects including “From the Mud”, “Growth”, and “Spittalicious”. His latest release “Omerta Over Clout” features seven beautifully produced tracks with CK spitting his truths and perspective on life. Outside of music, CK created Roll The Dice (RTD) Clothing with his childhood friend Viktor Steenson in 2021. He is often spotted with friends and fans at various events and parties across Stockholm, loudly and proudly sporting RTD clothing with their larger-than-life personas and prolific attitudes. Follow CK on his journey @ckthespitta on all socials.  CK. How did you coin the name?CK are my actual initials. It’s my first and last name. All the homies been calling me CK since way back so it was an easy choice  Who are your favorite producers to work with?Boi Yanel without a doubt, we push each other all the time and I can really say that he’s made me a better artist.  Omerta Over Clout. Explain the album title. All the clout chasing is getting out of hand in my opinion, they rather chase clout than money nowadays. I feel like it’s going to be our downfall. I rather stay quiet (omerta), focus on my art, and chase the money, that’s how I’m feeling.  What was different about doing your album after doing a number of mixtapes?This project is a level up compared to my previous tapes. I’m addicted to getting better at everything I do, and you can hear it on this project. How do you pick the beats on your projects and what is the creative process behind writing your lyrics?9 times out of 10 we be in the studio listening to beats made by the producer and i just choose the ones that really connect with me. I can be a pain in the ass sometimes because I’m picky and I know exactly what I like.When it comes to lyrics, I need to hear the beat before I write so I can get that feeling of what the song is going to be about.  How do you balance competition and creativity in music?Honestly, I don’t care about competition, I’m only competing with myself and that’s that. Comparison will drive you crazy, I just focus on being a better artist than I was yesterday.My creativity comes from everything I’ve been through. I paint the picture of past experiences.  How much does spirituality influence your music? I am in tune with myself which helps me be more honest in my music. I used to be hardheaded, and I hated sensitivity and all that. I was taught that showing weakness is a bad thing but I grew out of that as I got older. Top 5 rappers dead or alive?Kendrick, Nas, Andre 3000, Biggie, and Jay-Z. Who are your influences outside of rap and how have they shaped you as a person?I look up to people that are willing to go the extra mile for their dreams. It’s not just one particular person, I got lots of people who influence me. The people I study inspire me to always stay out of my comfort zone and go harder.  16 bars for the youth?I urge y’all to listen to all the bars from “Omertà Over Clout” before I give you something new.

All or Nothing: The Emotional Worlds of Veronica and Miriam text Natalia Muntean photography Sandra Myhrbergfashion Mi Märak Both Miriam and Veronica admit there was never a Plan B. “If you have a wide emotional range, or if you always have a broken heart, you need to get the emotions out,” says Miriam. And writing did that for her. It was the same for Veronica. She felt like she had no choice and knew she wanted to write “in some form or another” early on.There is no need to introduce Veronica Maggio and Miriam Bryant. With almost 17 years of writing, producing, and singing, Veronica has become an institution of Swedish pop music. Miriam debuted over 11 years ago, since then becoming one of the most recognizable voices in Sweden.I met them at the end of a long shooting day and tried to probe into their creative universes. Miriam explains that the lyrics were always the starting point for them as artists, “then came the singing.” Writers first, singers second. Broken-hearts Club no moreI’m always interested in how collaborations come about, so I ask how theirs started. Veronica tells me that four years ago they worked together on one song for Miriam’s album, and after that they wanted to write more songs together. “I liked this one too much, and I wanted to get in on the action,” Veronica says about “Under någon ny,” an exploration of what it feels to be the heartbreaker instead of the broken-hearted one. “We’re both very dramatic when it comes to heartbreak and relationships. But you forget the times when you’re the heartbreaker,” Miriam explains. The song is a departure from the heartbreak theme both of them felt they had been stuck in for too long. It seemed tempting to be the villain for once and take ownership of all the hearts they’d broken. The single was released together with a 30-minute musical drama – a collaboration with renowned director Jonas Åkerlund. “We never thought he would have the time, but we were so happy that he wanted to work with us,” says Miriam. The result is a unique production highlighting the mix of their artistic visions. But the two household names of the Swedish music scene aren’t content to stop at a duet and a musical drama. Miriam and Veronica are currently working on a joint tour consisting of seven shows that will start at the end of July in Göteborg. With fifteen musicians combined, the tour promises to be an exciting and unique experience for fans. “We wanted to do something nobody else had done before,” Veronica says of their intention to show case both their individual hits and their collaborative work. “So it’s not like you’re going to see us at a festival – your set first and then mine. Where’s the fun in that? We’re going to mash them together.” Balancing two sunsAs I listen to them talk and laugh, it appears they share a deep creative bond driven by a mutual desire to push boundaries. “We both always want to go bigger and bigger and bigger,” says Veronica. “And there’s no one there to stop us. But it’s so much fun.” I wonder how they find a balance between their visions in such a partnership and in an industry known for pitting female artists against each other. “We don’t have to balance our individual creative visions, it just happens,” Miriam explains. “We have found a very natural organic balance between the two of us. That’s why it’s so fun.” Veronica agrees, “We like each other’s ideas, too, and bounce off each other a lot. When I have nothing, she always has something and the other way around.” The two artists credit the easiness of their collaboration to shared motivation and deep respect for each other’s creativity. “There’s never been a forced moment between us,” says Miriam. We’re both motivated by the same emotions when we’re in the studio and also when working on the music video or the tour.” But sometimes collaborations can be double-edged swords. On the one hand, it can create powerful synergies, and on the other, it can also be fraught with ego clashes and creative disagreements. I am curious if they have experienced these moments within their duo and how they handle them. “Sadly, this can happen. You can feel bad about yourself when you see the other person, but that might be because you are not okay with yourself. You don’t notice these things when you are the only star around and everybody looks only at you,” says Veronica. Miriam adds that jealousy towards someone you like is never about the other person, and that these situations can help you become “aware of your fears and grow.” Their ability to communicate is the key to overcoming such pangs of jealousy. “Veronica always notices if I’m down and the other way around. So we’ve had talks when one of us was feeling negative, and it’s a good thing. It’s like having a colleague to share with and understand what it feels like to have all that pressure when there’s a job to be done,” says Miriam. Veronica adds, “It will be nice when we’re playing live to be like a little team.” The highs and lows of being an artistI am eager to understand how they perceive each other, their similarities and differences. “In terms of our visual narrative, the focus has been on highlighting our differences. The darkness in me and the light in Veronica,” says Miriam. “But that’s because of our hair,” laughs Veronica. “We have many similarities. We’re both all-or-nothing people,” says Miriam. My curiosity gets the best of me and I can’t help but ask about their star signs. “We are both Pisces,” they say. Miriam adds with a smile, “I have to sacrifice myself for everyone else all the time.” This is when I get my explanation for the emotional highs and lows Veronica describes and why she says they are “a couple of moody bitches.”

Varas and the Highs and Lows of Being in Your 20s text Natalia Muntean As a child and teenager, Varas aspired to the greatness of legendary artists like Queen, the Rolling Stones and David Bowie. Growing up in a small town two hours outside of Gothenburg, he was influenced by his dad being a dancer. Witnessing his dad’s performances on stage got him curious about what it would feel like to take on different identities. He recalls that seeing his dad perform helped him to feel comfortable performing “and cured a little of the stage fright that you can have.” But the moment he realised the impact music would have on his life was during a car ride when he was about 12, when“the best ballad ever,” as proclaimed by his dad, came on the radio. The song was “Stairway to Heaven” by Led Zeppelin and it ignited something within him. “We just sat there for seven, eight minutes, and listened to the whole track. That was pretty mind-blowing.” This was a significant turning point, sparking a newfound interest in guitar playing. He then spent the next couple of years immersed in YouTube tutorials, teaching himself how to play the instrument. “Stairway to Heaven” was, of course, the first song he learned to play. “I think I wouldn’t make music if there weren’t other people I liked or were inspired by,” says Varas, a moniker for Benjamin Munoz Varas.He formed his first band at 13, an experience that lasted for a couple of years and was influential. However, it was at 19 when he delved into computer-based production, unlocking the ability to craft complete songs beyond his guitar and vocal skills. He honed his producer skills to help others create the songs they imagined. Putting his talent and skills to others’ use meant not only gaining experience – “it is rewarding to get out of my head sometimes.”Producer, songwriter, and emerging artist, 25-year-old Varas released his second EP “There You Go!”, this spring. The creative process took over two years, with him writing and producing it. “When I make music, I aim to connect with myself on a deeper level and put out music that truly represents me,” he says. Detaching oneself from one’s own thoughts or others’ expectations can be difficult. “Sometimes I get caught up in overthinking or trying to please everyone else and I constantly have to filter out those influences,” says Varas.Listen to the EP here. There is Varas the music project and there’s also Benjamin Munoz Varas, the person. Do you have trouble separating those two sides? Or do you not intend to separate them?At the beginning, I think I separated them a bit more. Maybe that was because I didn’t really see myself as an artist at all, and maybe I was somebody that was ashamed to do it. But it’s the same person. When did you see yourself as an artist?Maybe during the pandemic, which is ironic, or maybe it happened because I was getting older. I always wanted to do creative things but I wasn’t an artist. It felt like such a big word. And then when I decided to see myself as an artist, it became easier to work and come up with original ideas. I take pride in it. So it was mostly a thing you did to yourself, you just decided?Yes, I realised during the pandemic that I really wanted to do music because I wasn’t feeling good when I couldn’t play live or meet people. It became very clear to me that this made me feel good and I just wanted to do that. I realised what kept me happy when I didn’t have it in my life. What inspires your creative process?Other people’s work, like books or poems or songs, movies. Mostly, my inspiration comes from the outside. What works have touched and influenced your music lately?One book that inspired me lately is Autobiography of Red by Anne Carson.  It’s inspiring to me how some people can write sentences and combine words you wouldn’t expect to mix. It’s the same with music – mixing a style with another style you didn’t expect. It feels like there aren’t any limitations. Your music blends different genres. How do you decide which ones to incorporate into your songs? And how do you ensure they go together?It depends on my mood and the energy I want to exert. Different genres have different attitudes and what you get out of them, so I don’t really have many no-gos within genres. If it fits what I feel, I take inspiration from it. How would you describe your sound?It’s some kind of pop, but it’s influenced by many things, mostly 70s rock, 2000s indies. And hip hop. Sometimes hip hop can feel like it’s not been processed but that’s intentional, and I like it when things sound raw. Can you talk about some of your recent songs such as HELL NO, and what inspired it?With this song it was about the feeling of being sick of being responsible, I guess and just always, always meeting deadlines and always doing your work. Which is, of course, rewarding because you get things done, but sometimes you feel like a robot, and then a year has passed and it’s still the same thing. If you don’t have a hamster wheel, that’s all you desire. Sometimes you want to get into routines and then when you have them, you’re not happy anyway, so we can never truly win, I guess. But the other songs are about being in your 20s because it feels like there are a lot of things to learn at this age. I remember at 18-19 my only goal was to have one song on Spotify. And then I thought I would be content for the rest of my life. jacket Deadwoodshirt Weekdayjewellery Lotta Hasselblad Tell me more about “There you go!” – why is it called that? And what inspired its creation?The EP has five songs, it came out on March 31st,

Nea is Ready for the Spotlight text Natalia Muntean photography Sandra Myhrbergfashion Alicia Hurst jacket Beyond Retroshirt Nümphearring Charlotte Bonde “It’s been the busiest spring ever. It’s been very hectic, but also really, really fun”, says Nea about where she finds herself in 2023. A well-established name in the songwriting community, Nea is the pen behind hits such as “Lush Life”, a song that represented her breakthrough. “With that song, so many of those doors opened, and I felt like I became somebody that people reached out to, instead of always being the one knocking on doors. That was a really big moment for me,” says Nea. In 2019, she stepped into the spotlight and took on the role of an artist. This year marks a special one for Nea, as her first album, “TRANSPARENT”, is expected to be released in the autumn. Nea remembers singing in the car with her family as her first memory of music. “I don’t have any family in the music business, but I feel like everyone in my family has musicality. I grew up in South Africa until I was four, so we sang a lot of South African gospel songs.” Her musical journey took her from writing songs as a child after her family relocated to Sweden, to writing songs for her band as a teenager, to travelling to Cuba to learn guitar and Barcelona to record her first demos, to basking on the streets of Stockholm, to eventually lending her penmanship to singers like Zara Larsson, Tove Styrke, Sabina Ddumba and many others. She credits artists from the early nineties as her main sources of inspiration when she creates, drawing from sounds created by Alanis Morissette, No Doubt, and Lily Allen, but also from bands like Fleetwood Mac. Her transition from songwriter to artist happened by chance when, as she pitched “Some Say”, she was told she should sing and release it as an artist. “At first, I was unsure if it was the right move because I love the process of being a songwriter. As a writer, you’re trying to put the light on somebody else and make it real for them. And as an artist, you have to take that light to yourself, and you’re a bit more exposed,” says Nea. What started as a play on Eiffel 66’s “I’m Blue” melody eventually became Nea’s debut single, being released in the autumn of 2019. “Some Say” managed to top the charts in more than 20 countries and gathered over half a billion plays only on Spotify. At the beginning of 2023, Nea released “A Lover Like Me,” a feisty self-love anthem peppered with ironies and born out of dissatisfaction with the selection of lovers. It was followed by the dreamy “YES”, a song Nea wrote years ago but took her time to find the right sound to match the lyrics, to mature and grow into it, mirroring in some ways the trajectory of her career. “It’s the oldest song on the album, and it’s the song I’ve always come back to,” says Nea about the piano-heavy number. In addition to dedicating herself to fine-tuning the last details of her debut album, Nea is also mentoring young songwriters as part of Songland, a TV show on national Swedish Television SVT from March to May, where experienced songwriters mentor newcomers in the field and help them pitch their songs to established artists. “My heart is really in the songwriting community, and I felt like it was such an exciting idea to help these up-and-coming talents finalise their songs and turn them into something perfect for the artists.” Natalia: You mentioned in one interview that the first years after moving to Stockholm were very difficult and that it felt like it was constant hustling. What made you want to continue?  Nea: Coming from a small town and not having any connections in the music industry was hard because you hope to be found by somebody who can open those doors for you. But it wasn’t that easy to know where to start because the music business is pretty small and closed before you’re in it. I feel like I was knocking on every door and nobody cared for many years, but at the same time I knew that I wanted to do music for a living and, for that reason, I continued. Also along the way, I always got support from friends and random people telling me that I’m great, and not that it made any difference to connect with the industry, but it strengthened that feeling that if I want it, I should keep going. N: How do you approach writing?Nea: It’s always different, but I feel like for me, melodies come very naturally and intuitively. Lyrics too of course but sometimes it’s harder work to find those exact words. So I spend a lot of time typing down lyrics, always trying to have a bank of ideas to work from. And if I watch TV, I will pause many times during a show to type stuff down and pay attention to how words are used. I also read books in English and the latest one I liked was Paradise by Abdulrazak Gurnah. N: Tell me more about the transition from being somewhat in the shadows as a songwriter to stepping into the spotlight as an artist? Nea: Some Say had its peak during the pandemic, so it was very special to have such a big song and big opportunities coming in, such as playing festivals. And then, one by one, everything got cancelled. At the same time, I was a bit overwhelmed by the whole thing back then. I hadn’t been planning on being an artist and when things got cancelled, it was a bit of a relief, to be honest. I didn’t feel ready to get up on that stage and meet an audience yet, but I did a lot of TV and radio interviews when I didn’t have an audience during the pandemic.